From michka@trigeminal.com Tue Feb 5 14:27:54 2002 Received: by suse.blue-edge-tech.com id g155RsI16226; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:27:54 +0900 Delivered-To: yuditorg-gsinai@yudit.org Received: from mail.yudit.org [206.245.164.55] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.6) for gsinai@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 05 Feb 2002 14:27:54 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 12060 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2002 05:00:32 -0000 Received: from smarthost.microsoft.com (HELO smarthost.redmond.corp.microsoft.com) (131.107.3.106) by mailserv2.iuinc.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2002 05:00:32 -0000 Received: from vmichka3 ([172.30.84.61]) by smarthost.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:00:18 -0800 Message-ID: <004801c1ae02$095fb780$13a52640@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> From: "Michael \(michka\) Kaplan" To: "Gaspar Sinai" Cc: "Unicode List" References: Subject: Re: Unicode and Security Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:00:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2002 05:00:19.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[0204C840:01C1AE02] Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: From: "Gaspar Sinai" > If the standard wants me to confuse the user, I would > rather dump the standard than comply. Well, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out? Te users will be less confused than you realize -- only people who walk in with agendas see the flaws you claim. > Talking about characters: I think bi-di should not be in > Unicode Standard because it is not a character. > It is an algorithm. And it is documented as such. Clearly what you want of Unicode does not match what it actually is -- when my wife and I realized such about each other, she became my ex-wife. Since that is your goal here, I guess your "divorce" from Unicode should not be a surprise? > Thank you for mentioning Yudit - I don't need > advertisement, there are enough users. Perhaps some will leave if you are honest about your "divorce" though -- you might be surprised how many people follow the standard? > I also start think this thread is a waste of time. > This thread won't solve the our problem. The only issue though is that we do not have a problem, here? > I feel sorry for interrupting in the "Let's praise and > celebrate Unicode" mood of this mailing list. Sorry, thats not the mood of the list. But in order to have a healthy respect for the people who give sound and reasonable arguments, we must show a matching lack of respect for those who give specious arguments. > I updated: > http://www.yudit.org/security/ > I wanted to remove it after solving the problem, but > it seems that this page will stay. The problem is solved, though. The real problem at this point can be found at http://www.yudit.org/gaspar/ though. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/